Brian Dowling explains his struggles to start a family with husband Arthur Gourounlian

Arthur Gourounlian, Brian Dowling
Pic: Lili Forberg for VIP Magazine

Recently, Brian Dowling opened up about his and husband Arthur Gourounlian’s decision to start a family, and their struggles behind it.

Now, Brian has opened up further, detailing the hardship and why they’re leaning more towards adoption now more than ever, on Georgie Crawford’s podcast The Good Glow.

“I think in America anything is possible, so it was great when we were in America and we were looking at surrogacy and talking to people about surrogacy and we were on the adoption system there.

“And then I was like, ‘Well the adoption system there isn’t necessarily where we’re going to go’. We were very much surrogacy.”

He continued, saying, “And then through Arthur’s history in his life, coming from Armenia and you know not really having anything and then having to seek asylum in Belgium and then the Salvation Army having to look after them.

“He’s very much like, ‘Why are you paying all this money when you can adopt a child?’ And that’s where we’re at now. We haven’t necessarily ruled out surrogacy altogether, it’s just that this is the door we’re knocking on now.”

Brian then explained why they’re not finding the adoption process easy here in Ireland, “To be honest with you, we’ve been reaching out here in Ireland and I suppose with Covid – Covid is not making anything easy.

Arthur Gourounlian, Brian Dowling
Pic: Lili Forberg for VIP Magazine

“But from the last conversation we had, I just wasn’t sure if the lady we spoke to, what their feelings were on same-sex adoption.

“Because she was like, ‘Mm Yeah, Oh’. And I just thought, ‘b***h please, you give me that phone right now and I will let her know who she’s talking to’.

“Just her whole tone changed. And he’s [Arthur] trying to get the phone away from me because he knows those conversations are recorded. And I’d be like, ‘Have you any idea?’”

Brian then joked about asking friend Pippa O’Connor to be a surrogate, “I’ve asked but she has never been drunk enough to say yes. Come on Pippa,” he laughed.

“I’m going to have to try, but could you imagine a child with her DNA and mine? That would be something you would see on Jurassic World, this new breed of dinosaur.”

He added, “I don’t think the world is ready for that yet.”


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